In my case it was like Shimmer said, they only asked how many times it had happened, andn they said explicitly that they did not want to hear the details. I don't know if they were following the Society's guidelines or if they were just not curious about gay sex. Probably we should ask Amazing or some other ex-elder.
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appearing before elders for "sexual miscon...
by razorMind indid anyone have to undergo this?
especially as a teen.
i have 2 cousins (different states, different congs) who got caught fornicatin' and had to appear before the elders.
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Do JWs circumcise?
by Imbue inthis came up in chat of course.. you can get as personal as you like.. crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
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Just for the record, the Watchtower considers it a personal decision whether to have a newborn boy circumcised.
Of course they do. They would never condemn a practice that is so common among white American protestants. If people in the US smoked as much as in Europe, then smoking would be regarded as a matter of conscience too.
In Latin America, circumcision is an exclusively Jewish practice. A JW couple who circumcised their son would be seen as weird and the Elders would raise their eyebrows.
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God is Jesus
by evangelist ini am looking for more scriptures that can prove to a jehovah witness that god is jesus, and jesus is god.i found only one verse so far in 1jo:5:20: and we know that the son of god is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his son jesus christ.
this is the true god, and eternal life.. if you know more scriptures that say directly that god is jesus please tell me the verses the jhw will see plainly that jesus is no way an angel, and he is jehovah god almighty.. my friend said if i can prove by the bible only that jesus is god he will leave the jhw society, and he will know that they are teaching lies and they would be to him a dogma religious sect.
my friend gave me a booklet called should you believe in the trinity?, and is jesus christ the almighty god.
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a great many trinitarians do not "know that the Trinity doctrine is about substance, not personage
Not only that, but they ignore that the Trinity Doctrine (or more precisely, the deification of Christ) was a gradual development that took centuries after the canonical books of the NT were completed. This is not a problem for Catholics, who do not believe in the inerracy and completeness of the Bible, but it is a problem for Protestants. But most Fundamentalists are as ignorant of Biblical Exegesis and Church History as the Dubs are.
To put it simple: There's no Trinity doctrine in the Bible unless you take verses out of context as JW do.
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Is anyone on the forum from Illinois?
by Leander inthis site has been a source of tremendous encouragement for me.
i've been able to truly learn quite a bit since i've started coming here.
i've also found the courage that i need which will help me walk away from the jw organization in the very near future.
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Leander, if it's so difficult for you to break the ties with the Borg, then just take it easy and fade away gradually. That way the members of your congregation will not be forced to shun you and the relationship between you and your wife will not get unnecesarily more strained.
There's no such a thing as the right way to leave the Borg. The right way for you is the way that suits you best.
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Does This Make Me A Racist?
by Englishman intodays newspapers are full of the le pen story.
much concern is being voiced that right-wing organisations will ride on this story to make their own agendas more widely known, ie, send all the immigrants back home, britain for the british, sod off everyone else!.
now i personally love different cultures.
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why people from another country choose to emigrate to Britain if they do not intend to adopt the host’s country’s culture and language.
Eman, you have no idea what you're talking about. You seem to believe that learning a new language and adopting a new culture is as easy as changing one's hairstyle.
The answer to your question is simple: they seek to emigrate to the First World because they starve in their own countries. All they want is a job, they don't go to England because they like your culture. As long as they are decent people and do their job, who cares if they do or do not speak English and drink tea?
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Unbelieving Partners
by Sirona init has occurred to me that living as an unbelieving partner to a jw takes its toll on you mentally.
do you start to be influenced by their way of thinking?.
do you begin to see religion in "black and white" terms, even though you claim you are not a jw?.
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My mother has never been a JW and has never been influenced by it.
She's agnostic, or more precisely, indifferent to religion; she just doesn't care. Basically, she thinks the WT religion is ridiculous. She never looked at the problem in terms of true/false religion, which is how religious people see it and what makes them strong opposers. She only says, "if there's something of value in the WT religion, then why only poor and under-educated people join?"I wish she had opposed more strongly, though; that would have saved me some time. But all is well if it ends well, I suppose. On the other hand it is true what Cpiolo says, dubs are not wrong about everything, so you shouldn't expect a "neutral" person to be against everything her/his JW partner says or does.
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Is You Know dead?
by Joseph Joachim ini'm reading in the newspaper that a certain american turist named robert king was bitten by a jellyfish in australia and died.
could that be you know?
is that the fate of apostates like him?
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Kismet,
Take my post at face value because you're reading second intentions that are not there. I just read the news in the tram this morning on the way to my office, and thought it was a funny coincidence, the name and the way to die. I'm not happy when someone harmless like You Know dies (different is the case when a GB member dies) and I didn't think it would be inappropriate to post his real name, since everybody knows it.
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Disturbing trend in WT magazines...
by TheApostleAK inthis may be obvious to some but has anybody noticed the lack of doctrinal based watchtower study articles in wts for the last 2 years?.
lately we've been just getting either "pep talk" articles or articles that are only based on subjects.. the only new light lately is mainly the daniel and isaiah books.
and any new light in wt's is mainly just clarification (usually in the q's from readers page).. from ak
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This is the fate of all apocalyptic christian sects. Their "prophecies" are not fullfilled, then people with at least one active neuron leave, and what is left is a leadership that completely lacks creativity, intelligence and education. This is not new, it's been going on for 2000 years.
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Is You Know dead?
by Joseph Joachim ini'm reading in the newspaper that a certain american turist named robert king was bitten by a jellyfish in australia and died.
could that be you know?
is that the fate of apostates like him?
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I'm reading in the newspaper that a certain american turist named Robert King was bitten by a jellyfish in Australia and died. Could that be You Know? Is that the fate of apostates like him?
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Religious Intolerence, P-Correctness& Racism.
by Englishman ini absolutely detest political correctness in any form.
im a firm believer that there is nothing wrong with a ship being a she nor a person being a chairman rather than a chair person.
some time ago i was sat in a busy restaurant and a person pushing a wheel chair containing an invalid, asked me if i would give up my table so that the invalid person could use it.
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Puffsrule,
If you continue reading my thoughts I will sue you for invading my privacy. (Sueing someone for no reason is another American trait, after all).
JJ